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Brakes Maintenance - Bleeding a Disk Brake

The newest Vespa scooters use a hydraulic disk front brake system which is far better than the cable operated alternative. There are also many kits to change older models to a disk brake setup on Vespas and a hydraulic conversion for Lambrettas fitted with the cable operated disk brake. Whatever the set up, the following section will show how to bleed and replace your hydraulic fluid.

You'll need:

  • A new bottle of DOT 3 or 4 brake fluid
  • A 10mm wrench
  • A phillips head screwdriver
  • A brake bleeding tool like a MityVac or 2' length of 1/4 clear tubing

Hydraulics work by moving liquid along a hollow hose to make the caliper at the wheel end squeeze a rotating disk. The handlebar end of the system has a small plunger that forces liquid through the line every time you pull it. This plunger must be always be below the level of the small reservoir it sits under or else air might enter the system. Slowly but surely air can work its way into this closed system and when it does the brakes will start to feel 'spongy'. The reason is that liquids cannot be compressed much but air can easily be compressed. If there is air in the system it will compress in the line instead of actuating the caliper.

Above is a shot of a fantastic tool that costs about $50 from most auto parts stores. When connected to the brake system it can be pumped to create a vacuum in the tube and suck fluid into the small reservoir just before the handgrip. If you work on cars too, it can do all sorts of diagnostic tasks with the vacuum/pressure valve mounted in front of the handgrip. This is not a necessary tool but it makes it very easy to do with just one person.

The first step is to find the bleed valve on your hub mounted disk brake caliper. These shots are off my VBA bike so although a PX200 with a disk brake will look a little different, these steps are still valid. The bleed valve is a small 10mm nut with a hole through it and a small nipple for a tube to be connected.

The bleed valve usually has a small rubber cover to it which needs to be removed (red arrow in above left shot). Once removed the nut can be loosened. Only about a 1/4 turn is necessary to allow the fluid to move out the valve hole.

I have done brake bleeding with an extra long tube on the bleed valve but I found a suction tool that is perfect for the job and makes it super easy. If using an extra long tube it will need to be about 2' long and curve down and then back up towards the sky, like a large 'U'. With a tube system you'll be using the master cylinder to push fluid through the system; with the tool you'll be sucking it in from the end of the system. Whether you use a long tube or the tool, you'll need to connect a 1/4" diameter tube to the bleed valve as shown above.

Move up to the handlebar reservoir and there will be two phillips head screws holding the top of the reservoir on. Start by placing and old rag on any painted surface that may possibly get some brake fluid on it. DOT 3 or 4 fluid is a serious paint remover. If you do spill any on your paintwork get it off immediately and it should not mark the surface. Once the top is removed you will be able to see inside the reservoir and the two small holes (arrowed above) which allow fluid into the system. These must always be covered with liquid over the next few steps or you will have to start over.

Start by getting everything open and ready. I use a syringe to transfer hydraulic fluid from the bottle to the reservoir because it is easy to control and is easier to avoid splashes on the paintwork. Place the hydraulic fluid bottle in a location where you can refill the syringe quickly as you may need to do this many times while the fluid is being sucked into the system. Once everything is in place it is time to begin.

Start by filling the reservoir almost to the top and then bring up the pressure in the vacuum tool by squeezing the trigger about 3 times. You'll see the fluid slowly drain into the small holes in the upper reservoir. THESE MUST BE KEPT COVERED WITH LIQUID AT ALL TIMES. If for any reason they get uncovered you will have to be sure that the air bubble you just introduced to the system is bled out of the bottom valve. At the bleed valve fluid should start to flow into the tool reservoir. It will probably be dirtier than what you are replacing it with and may have bubbles in the tube. Continue to fill the handlebar unit and monitor the fluid coming out of the bleed valve until it is closer in color to the new fluid and there are no air bubbles present. Then let the vacuum pressure release from the tool and slowly depress the handlebar lever. This must be done slowly as fluid may shoot out of one of the small holes at the bottom of the reservoir. If there is any air in this part of the system it will bubble to the top of the handlebar reservoir.

Finally, tighten the bleed valve at the caliper leaving the tube in place, and fill the upper reservoir until you hit the MAX line in the window, and refit the top. Pump the vacuum tool three times to build up pressure and then disconnect it from the bleed valve. The suction should stop any spilling from the tube.

A single pull of the handlebar lever should be enough to make sure the system is working well.

A final word on brake fluid. From what I have found DOT 3 and 4 are interchangeable in most systems. DOT 5 should not be used under any circumstances. Usually the requirements for the system are cast into the top of the handlebar reservoir cover.

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Brakes Maintenance- Replacing Disk Pads

There are two types of disk brake set ups for Vespa scooters. Before a hydraulic disk was standard equipment on the PX models, there was semi-hydraulic version available from Grimeca as an aftermarket kit. The reason it is semi-hydraulic is that there is no master cylinder on the headset, but instead there is a remote reservoir bolted to the fork tube which connects to the handle bar brake lever by a shorter than normal front brake cable.

This section will show how to change the brake pads and should be the same for the new five spoke Vespa '98' type hydraulic disk brake which is standard equipment on all new Vespa PXs. Be sure to specify which model you have when ordering pads as I don't have any information if they are the same size for both systems.

You will need:

  • A large flathead screwdriver
  • New disk pads (available from most Vespa dealers)
  • 13mm socket and driver or open ended wrench
  • 11mm socket and driver or open ended wrench
  • Small flathead or circlip pliers
  • Possibly some copper paste lubricant for the caliper pistons
  • Possibly an Allen wrench set if your caliper is held on with Allen bolts instead of normal hex head bolts.

The aftermarket Grimeca kit system comprises of the following parts:

  • Red arrow: Hydraulic brake caliper.
  • Blue arrow: Remote hydraulic reservoir
  • Green arrow: Hydraulic hose to caliper
  • Yellow arrow: Brake disk & hub beyond

Replacing the pads

The first thing to do is get the bike onto the kickstand and make sure the front wheel is off the ground. Many bikes have bent kickstands which allow the front wheel to sit on the ground. If this is the case with yours, just put a block of wood or a brick under either stand foot to raise the front wheel.

The front wheel rim is removed by loosening the five 13mm nuts around the hub side of the front wheel. Because of the caliper set up the wheel must be removed in order to remove the caliper. This older kit has a different front hub than the newer standard five spoke hub, so yours may differ from the one shown above.

Once the wheel is off you will be able to remove the two bolts noted above which allows the caliper to come free from the hub mount. The hydraulic hose can remain in place because it is a pain to bleed the system if it is removed and will bend enough to allow you to do all the work needed.

Once the caliper is clear you will be able to see the two pads that grab the rotating disk when the front brake lever is pulled. These ones are very close to having no pad left so both caliper pistons are visible too.

The calipers pistons will need to be spread back to the face of the assembly in order to fit the new pads. The new pads will be much thicker than the ones being replaced so the pistons must be spread in order to fit them both. We used the old pads to protect the pistons from any damage and then carefully wedged a screwdriver between them to force the pistons apart. If they are hard to move they can be lubricated with copper paste but be careful to apply it in such a way that it will not get on to the disk when reinstalled. They should move pretty easily so if you feel you are using excessive force it may make sense to remove the caliper from the hydraulic hose, sort out the problem, and then bleed the system later. I have a page showing how to bleed a similar system in other post. The principle is the same regardless of where the main reservoir is located.

To remove the old pads you will need to remove the plastic cover on the backside of the caliper which allows you to see the anti-rattle spring (blue arrow) and a small retaining pin (red arrow) that passes through the cast hydraulic caliper housing. The plastic cover is just a snap fit on the caliper and a flathead screwdriver works well to pry it off. The retaining pin goes through a hole in the brake pad backing and keeps it in place.

To remove the retaining pin, remove the small circlip at the wheel side of the caliper. We used a small screwdriver to wedge it off by placing it between the pin and the circlip- beware...these things can go flying and are very hard to find.

Once the circlip is removed, pull the pin out. The old brake pads and anti-rattle spring may fall out at this point because the pin is the only thing holding them in place. Note the location and orientation of the anti-rattle spring as it needs to go back in the same position (large side towards the sky when the caliper is in place).

The old disk pad is obviously shown by the green arrow. The new pad is the blue arrow, and the anti-rattle spring (which can be reused is shown with a red arrow.

The new pads go into the caliper the same way the old ones came out. The pad surfaces need to be facing each other with the hole in the brake pad backing facing the rear of the caliper, so that the small retaining pin will go through them and hold them in place. When replacing the retaining pin make sure the anti-rattle spring is in the same position it was when removed. Slip the pin through the holes in the pads making sure the pin also secures the anti-rattle spring. Replace the circlip to keep the pin from sliding out, and refit the caliper to the hub. Test the system by rotating the front wheel while the caliper is fully open. There may be slight resistance but this will disappear after less than a mile of riding. The surface of the pads is quite bumpy and needs to be ground down slightly by the rotating disk before they will fully bed in with the disk. The picture above shows a point in the older Grimeca hub that must be aligned with the air valve stem in order to make the wheel rim fit on the hub. Tighten all the 13mm nuts down and test the wheel and brake system before you take it on the road.

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